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Robin Williams had early PD issues?

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He played the Dr. in Awakenings and he knew about Parkingsons. I can imagine if it were starting to affect his incredible mind, that he might think it was time to go before he was not himself anymore, but it is so horribly sad.

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on the other hand he wasn't stupid, treatments are a lot better now than then in the 70's and he could afford the best advice/treatments.  i find it strange his wife felt compelled to reveal his pd now, as if she wanted to blame his death on early pd and nothing else?  might have contributed to it but i don't think many people kill themselves in the early stages, especially now that there is more hope for a cure.  call me cold but she left the house in the morning without seeing him since the night before since they slept in separate rooms.

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It's one thing for the newly dx'ed to get depressed. But for those who are already depressed, it's doubly bad. I can see how it may have pushed him over the edge. RIP Robbin.

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I imagine being diagnosed with PD, while suffering from long term depression, would be a major blow.

 

*Oops, Fritz beat me to it. Damn PD has slowed my typing.

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I know what you mean musicman. I have read that depression can be a symptom of PD or a side effect of meds. However, we all need to remember that, like PD, people are all different. Some people were negative and depressed long before they got PD. We have a family friend who is a practicing cardiologist. He once told me that we are all just trying to extend our lives until we are put into a box. I now dread talking to this guys because he is always so negative.

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i'm not trying to speculate exactly why he committed suicide, just thinking about the potential affect on pd'ers who are recently diagnosed.  god forbid if they start demanding antidepressants right away or doctors start playing defensive medicine and offer to write a RX.    Probably making a mountain out of a mole hill but the news media is going to play this up to no end, how bad pd is, etc.   and i just got an email from a pd organization offering counseling/advice if i think i'm depressed, which is depressing.

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   and i just got an email from a pd organization offering counseling/advice if i think i'm depressed, which is depressing.

Ha! Man, that is sick....

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musicman I know you realize that this forum is for people of all stages as well as their as their caregivers.  You have initiated some change around here and is was positive; some ppl now put their diagnosis in their signature as well as their meds.  But now you don't want to have to read the posts of depressed persons.  The solution is easy...just skip over their posts.

 

Perhaps you should just read the newly diagnosed thread. It might be the best choice for you because we can't close all the threads due to some very valuable information being shared.  We all learn from one another. As a caregiver I wish the caregiver thread was closed.  Not gonna happen.  I hope that you will gain a lot of valuable information from an imperfect system.

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It does seem as if Robin Williams jumped the gun a bit. Surely he had years of positive life left in him. But that's the way of severely depressed people I suppose....

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Let me remind you people that this forum is here for EVERYONE! If I or anyone else want to post something sad or mad we have that right. There is no rule that says every post has to be happy or feel good. I am very disappointed, and do not like where this is headed.

Actually, I am so angry I can't even think straight.

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I agree with Theresa's comments.  I'm a little surprised at these posts but I guess that's what an open forum is for.

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I have to agree with TeresaJ.  This forum is for everyone and Musicman it is your choice how you deal with what you read.  As for Robin Williams it is possible that he got hit really hard earlier with the anxiety and depression that the PD was causing before the diagnosis.  It is sad, but also his suicide may have had nothing at all to due with the PD.  All that is happening is that everyone is speculating on his cause, and the only one that knows the why is Robin Williams.  It is just very sad that he felt he had no where or no one to turn to for help.  He may have reached out, but no one listened, and that would be even sadder.   So that Musicman is why some forum members come to rant or to talk about not so good news, because it helps, and you may find yourself in that situation one of these days. 

I hope everyone has a great evening.

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I agree whole heartedly with teresa. This forum is for everyone, and if someone is depressed, I would rather see them post their problems here, that for them to take the final exit, because if they post here, then we at least have the opportunity to help them! One of the biggest reasons people commit suicide is that they feel that their world has contracted around them, with no place or direction to turn. Here, we have a safe place for PWP's and their caregivers to turn. A place where they can post their problems and troubles, as well as their fears, and other struggles. I would hope that by being able to post and then discuss these problems, troubles, hopes ,fears, and struggles, that WE as a group can lessen their feeling of isolation, and keep their world from closing in to the point of suicide. If any of us can help someone from taking that road, then we can consider our time here well spent. I post this from the deepest depths of my heart...................

 

Although I have never considered suicide, nor have issues with depression, These are subjects that are very close to my heart and soul, because my younger brother committed suicide in 1988 at 17 years of age........................RIP James (my brother) and Robin.

 

musicman? I won't even begin to say what I think and feel about your statements, other than I agree with Trying Hard, and let that suffice.

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By coincidence I watched Awakenings 2 days before the news. I especially liked his portrayal of a teacher in The dead poets society. Sorry we won't have any new examples of his talents. I'm not convinced that recent onset of PD pushed him over the edge. I am saddened that we lost someone who could have been a wonderful advocate for our condition just like Michael J Fox.

 

Thanks for sharing your talent with us Robin, rest in peace...

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If the news reporting is to be believed, Robin had a long history of being a drug addict and had huge financial problems (partly due to multiple divorces).  MANY of the celebrities in Hollywood are the most unhappy people on the planet.  I think that there are a lot of things to attribute this suicide to, other than PD.

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 I am saddened that we lost someone who could have been a wonderful advocate for our condition just like Michael J Fox.

I agree, and I know it may sound selfish to say this 'cos every individual with PD has their own demons to live with, but if M J Fox, Linda Ronstadt, and Robin Williams could have joined forces and called attention to this disease, they may have been able to convince Bill Gates or Google to contribute a billion $'s towards research. Fox already does a tremendous job by himself, but Ronstadt and Williams probably don't/ didn't know how influential they could have been. But again, we each have to deal with this the best we know how.

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One thing that concerns me is that depression is very common with PD sufferers, and here we have a forum where (possibly) VERY depressed people can post whatever they want for the public to read. Newly diagnosed people, who may not be suffering from depression (and in fact may NEVER suffer from that symptom) will read a lot of very negative stuff and have to fight thru it and try not to live in fear of the future.

 

I know there's nothing that can be done about it, but it does concern me a bit. In the short time that I have been a member here, I can pick out a few posters here who I half dread reading their posts, cos I know they are gonna make me feel bad.

 

"..I know there's nothing that can be done about it"....

 

Well, actually there is.

 

How about banning members with rapid progression,  dyskinesias, motor fluctuations, severe fatigue, depression, etc.,  practically any member who doesn't want or care to paint a rosy picture of PD. Because these patients are only contaminating this forum with negativity and spreading their depression virus to newbies... Too bad we are too far from never-never land.

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My post was obviously misunderstood, the same way I have probably misunderstood others peoples posts here. I will try to refrain from posting in the "open forum", and mostly stick to the "newly diagnosed" section.

In the meantime I will delete the offending post

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Musicman, you really seem to have hit a nerve!  I can't actually say that I understand what it is that you did that caused the negative responses, but you did hit a nerve.

 

If I were to give an opinion about the forum, I would say that I think the forum is too positive - exactly the opposite of what you said.  IMO, the truth is that PD sucks!  It is not an opportunity for enlightenment; for growth; to explore hidden talents, etc.  It is a dangerous disease that kills 23,000 people every year.  That is the depressing disease that is PD.

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