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Quietstill

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Hi guys.

Discussion has obviously been discouraged, but this is important.  You may or may not care about the 14 million losing their insurance next year, (and yes, I will be one as I am in the open market and am in my 50s with a pre-existing condition), but the following year, 2020 is vital.  That is when the 880 billion permanent cut occurs of Medicaid (corrected, see below) funding, and coincidentally, the same year an 880 billion tax break is given to the extremely wealthy.

Nursing homes will suffer.  No more opiod addiction treatment.  No more PT, except for immediate gain (broken leg, post surgery).  Read the CBO report.  It is interesting.

Good luck.

ETA--sorry, sorry, sorry.  I spent so much time working out the correct figures, that I wrote "medicare" not MEDICAID.  I've corrected the post.  My apologies.

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wrote medicare, not medicaid
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There has been no discouragement of discussion relevant to Parkinson's disease.  Health care and insurance is obviously relevant and, in my view, therefore, welcome. 

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3 hours ago, miracleseeker said:

Sure thing as long as it doesn't spread to bashing our president again.

Sigh.  No one ever did on any thread I was on.  Why does draconian cuts to the poor and ill among us bring the president to mind?  The issue remains: What type of country do you want to live in?

I choose tolerance, compassion for others, and open minded discussion.

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I'm sure glad we can all agree on this, as I for one don't come here to read a bunch of political claptrap.

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I must be dimmer than I thought cause all I got out of the thread that was locked up was about what is wrong with our country and how the past and current president is making it worse.  Ok then.

 

 

 

 

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Isn't it interesting how our perspectives differ?  Unfortunately our health care is directly influenced by politics.  Wouldn't it be wonderful if all of those in positions of power would sit down together, pull together the best information from those who deliver healthcare, those who receive healthcare, those who research healthcare, costs, outcomes, etc.. with the ultimate goal in mind of delivering good healthcare to everyone and come up with a solution, taking politics and self interest from all sectors out of it. If this happened, most of us would accept, agree, and be happy.

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The issue here is whether a person can wait until they're seriously sick to obtain insurance.  Can a person wait until their house is on fire to obtain fire insurance and then expect someone else to pay for it? 

 

 

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The issue is actually Medicaid.  A $880 billion permanent cut to short term nursing home care (after hospitalization), long term nursing home care, respite care, physical therapy, home health care aides, hospice and respite services, hoyer lifts and hospital beds for the home, wheelchairs, drugs.  That's just for the PD population.

If you want further info for addiction services, psychiatric treatment, children's coverage, pregnancy, homeless vet care, go to https://www.medicaid.gov/

The issue is the deep cuts to the elderly, sick, very young, and disabled among us.

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One of the keys to saving Medicaid is to make every recipient pay some sort of co-pay.  When people pay nothing, they have no incentive to conserve.  When I go to the doctor, I know that I'm going to pay 20%.  If the doctor charges $200, then I pay $40.  I do not go to the doctor unless I really need to.  Many people on Medicaid go to the doctor or ER for very minor things because it costs them nothing (I'm paying for it). 

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59 minutes ago, PatriotM said:

One of the keys to saving Medicaid is to make every recipient pay some sort of co-pay.  When people pay nothing, they have no incentive to conserve.  When I go to the doctor, I know that I'm going to pay 20%.  If the doctor charges $200, then I pay $40.  I do not go to the doctor unless I really need to.  Many people on Medicaid go to the doctor or ER for very minor things because it costs them nothing (I'm paying for it). 

Patriot, you may be right.  I don't know.  I know with my DH with Parkinson's, we have not overused the system.  We are on Medicare and not Medicaid. He has had home health care and he is now on hospice, but managing without it would have been extremely difficult to impossible.  I rarely see a doctor even with no co-pay with Medicare and a supplement. In fact, I probably wait too long to see a doctor which creates its own set of problems. I don't know people who overuse the system.  There are likely some, but how many, who, and why, I don't know.

There are trained researchers who can compile this information.  My son is a Ph.D Medical Bioinformaticist working for a hospital.  His job is to research whatever the hospital needs in regards to patient care and costs.  We operate on personal observation and assumed information and neither may be accurate.  When we get serious about quality healthcare for all  and compile provable information on which to base decisions and policy, we will be much closer to a workable solution.  

 

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