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Has anyone had success with cognitive behavior therapy and/or sleep restriction to treat insomnia? I've had insomnia for almost 20 years and still trying to tame the beast! I take melatonin but find it marginally helpful. Surprisingly I only occassionaly have daytime sleepiness.

 

 

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One thing that has helped me, although it took a loooong time before it started working, is listening to a self-hypnosis recording. The one I used is called Deep Sleep with Medical Self-Hypnosis by Steven Gurgevich. I have a digital copy from Audible. I turn it on to chapter 3 and just let it play out when I need help. I used this for about 6 months before it started to reliably help me. Now it often only takes a few seconds to work. In fact, I seldom need to use it anymore. Now I have an app with ocean sounds and I usually go to sleep within a couple minutes of using it.  I don't know whether this will help you or not, but there are not really any risks or side effects involved if you decide to try it. And who knows? Maybe it will help. Sweet dreams . . .

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Some people are born that way and it’s not Parkinson’s. Some people’s brains are passive during day time and very active especially at night. There is lot of mental chatter that happens at night. People decode messages,  learn new lessons especially at night from problems encountered during day. It’s a good thing.  If you try to treat, you only going to agitate it. Accept it and move on.

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I wish I could help! Melatonin and even prescription sleep aids only "get me to sleep" however do not keep me asleep... 2-3am, I awake then I start with the light/REM sleep and random dreams and awakenings... It really sucks some nights... I do find some mind space apps do help me relax before bed. Headspace is one of them, I also use another called Calm... There are many designed to relax your mind... Would love to hear other tips as well

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Going to sleep and waking up at the same time is a good habit. Caveat, you have to wake up even if you don’t get much sleep at your designated time and follow the same principal for sleeping time. Sleep at the same time whatever other priorities you may have.

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Read up on sleep hygiene. Suggestions are using the bed for sleep and sex only. No TV or electronics in bed. The screens put out a type of light that interferes with sleep. Go to bed and wake up at the same time has already been mentioned. If you don't fall to sleep or wake up during the night, try to relax for 20 minutes. If you still can't sleep, get up and read an unexciting book or magazine by lamplight. Do not watch TV or use any electronics. Have a light snack or warm decaffeinated beverage. As soon as you feel sleepy, return to bed and try sleeping again. 

I use an app named iSleep Easy from the app store. I created a playlist that works for me. There is one titled Wee Hours Rescue for waking up in the middle of the night. This allows me to sleep 7 to 8 hours each night.

Sweet dreams!

Dianne   

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A member of my household with chronic insomnia was cured by using "REMFresh" - a timed release version of melatonin. It was recommended by a physician sleep specialist who said it's a last resort before sleep aid CNS drugs.

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Dr.Low founder of recovery Inc.famous phrase on sleep.You only need to rest your muscles and your relax your attention for health in regards to sleep.He also states many sleep in light sleep and in small intervals which accumulate to give us that rest.While a fitful night might be distressing it is not a serious condition.

I have found a good antidote to stress is humor ,We all forget our sense of humor at times ,but that to is average for all.

Sweet dreams,lol

 

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I have tried many sleep aids over the years with varying results; none good. While I am able to go to sleep with no problem, since Parkinson's I am not able to stay asleep for more than 3-4 hours.  Then another hour or two later, totaling 4-6 hours. That was up to a year ago when I tried cannabis. Smoking a small amount of a potent THC strain at bedtime puts me to sleep for a solid 4-5 hours. I then wake up needing to urinate,  and back to bed for an additional 2 hours. It makes a world of difference.  I wake up refreshed, with no feeling of hangover.

Of course, this isn't for everyone. CBD oils don't work for me, it's the THC content that seems to knock me out. And I don't mind being high for the short period before falling asleep. That might bother some other folks.

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Yep, I've been up since 4 am. Yep, I went to bed at 11:45 pm. 

So, here's what I think: I had a pretty stressful evening (thanks boss!) so I decided to skip the usual plan of nightly swimming and reading a book before bed.

Instead, I just watched TV on the couch and did some random web searching. Also ate less than optimal food, re: spicy junk!

So, note to self: my brain and metabolism are far too active to be fooled by vegging out when life is stressful.

Stick to the routine if possible - especially on stressful days - but also have a plan B of secondary activities in place just in case I need a break from the routine.

 

 

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I somehow survive on about 5 hours of sleep per night, and have for a very long time. I might awaken a 4 am, but I lay in bed calmly and have relaxing "dream-thoughts" and pass the time away until 6 or so. I go to bed at 11 pm and get up at 6 am, regardless of whether I'm asleep the whole time or not...I just don't worry about it.

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I went to see a sleep therapist for behaviral training.

While what she said  made sense i could t do it. My issue is I have trouble falling asleep.

what she suggested was to force myself to stay up later say midnight.  Well that didnt work  I take my last medicine  @ 7 so by the time midnight rolled around i was so dopamine depleted

that i could barely move.  It was so bad one night i thought i was dieing She didnt have any knowledge of pd 

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